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Peacock · Getting Started Joined: 26 Jan 2006 Posts: 12

Done it again.

Mr Veale Please tell me why you have no time for me?

I can tell you all that there is only one of me posting on this site I am not getting anyone else to post for me can do this myself unlike some.

I am not using more then one computor only have the one.

I am not using other peoples computors to post with unlike some.

As for not being helped I don't know what you mean?

Mr Thornton I do not remember you giving me information about anything you told me about a teacher working with a child with special needs being moved onto another school. I asked for conformation on this as I said that if it was who I thought it was she was not a teacher you didnot reply to this.

I replyed to a question I was asked about what I would have done if the porn incident had happened to my daughter I replyed only for you to say I was wasting forum space.

Sorry but I thought that was what it was for to answer what has been asked.

You have never told me where I can go for information on this or any matter.

So come on lets play the game.. Please do not pull me to bits and lie about the facts you are telling me because you are not giving me information.

As for the sets can worried ta explain them to me not in a personal e-mail but on this web site.

They state Mrs coupe has changed them from 3 to 2 sets. Then says she has now added a fourth set in year 6. Did year 6 have 3 sets and the rest of the school only 2. They also state that she has done this because she is in a panic. Can this women do nothing that will please you. She has done what you want but is still wrong.

As for your comment on my attacks of the MSAG it seems to me that it is you that attack. You all and I mean all have pulled me to bits since I first wrote to the gazette.

You have stated that you think I am wasting forum space.
I have recieved information but will not listen.
I read the web site and reply to what I read. But you are not saying anything that gives me cause for concern over Mrs Coupe being Head of school.

Mr Veale you said that you found this web site FUN. Is it fun to call people names because this is not what I have been taught. People are looking at this for facts on school and you are one of the people giving us these facts and then you make a comment like that. This is not a game it should not be fun.
You and the MSAG have made some serious chages about people on this site and in letters and then you say it is fun.

I do not find what you are doing FUN you are seriously damaging school with all your comments. If one of my children was doing something like this and found it fun I would consider getting them help.

Any E-mails sent to me go to my sons E-Mail adress as I do not have one. So I will get him to have a look for me as soon as I can.

Mr thornton I have asked you if you have children at school you have not answered this question. You seem to be saying it is I not answering questions but niether are you.

I am not a reasonable person when all you tell me is hear say coming from I don't know where.

ANSWER MY QUESTIONS MR.THORNTON.

Can the rest of you tell me how many of you have children in school?

Besides Mr Veale I don't know who else has.

I can not help the fact that my posts differ in style You can write to any you like and does this apply to you Mr Thornton. WHO ARE YOU?

AS for the spelling sorry about that but you see I am not very good at spelling and use a dictionary. But you probably know this as you seem to think you know a lot about me.

Also Mr Thronton I am still awaiting a reply to what a member of staff has told you about me and who they are. As anything about me and what happened in school is confidential and should not be passed onto anyone. But I suppose this is what I could have expected from some people. I have also been to the education department about this as I am very cross that a member of staff should speak out like that. You have also stated that you have held of printing this on the web site but feel free to do so. But please name where it has come from.

R. Thornton · Reaching Full Speed Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 99

Now Mrs Peacock, these will be my last words to you - reply if you feel the need.

I contacted you originally by email because I didn't want arguments on the site - and I thought you were a reasonable person. Obviously this hasn't worked, I now do not find you reasonable. This is purely my impression based on how you have responded.

Your posts over time have appeared to be very different - that was my statement. If as you say only one person has posted then I apologise.

The reply to your query about the teacher being removed by Mrs Coupe was in my last email to you only last week.

My comment about you wasting forum space was based on the number of times you ask the same questions and make the same statements.

You shouldn't need to be told where to go for information - I clearly posted straight after a post of yours with a long list of facts and information - and exactly where to get confirmation of all details I gave - so that you would know that they were not just my opinions. Have you contacted Ofsted for example to confirm the date of the first letter ? This was in answer to your claim that the whole forum was about the re-instatement of Mrs Alderson - do you remember ?

I resent being called a liar and I expect admin to edit that from your post.

As for the sets. I can't help you with that. I have simply expressed my opinions in response to sensible, well though out comments by a poster called Sarah. My comment was that if sets were working well previously, then staff would have had the right to question changes - if the sets and other changes after due discussion with senior management then fair enough. That is how a good management structure works. Now someone has claimed that sets are being increased again - that seems obvious to me that the changes did not work.

If you have read all the information on the forum and other things which have been said and think Mrs Coupe is not giving cause for concern as head of school then I really do feel for the staff who disagree with her in any way at all. Thank goodness there are still other parents who think that teachers and parents have rights. You are very blinkered in which pieces of information you read and which you pick out to argue with.

You say I do not answer questions - again I resent that. I answer every single question asked of me. If you need to know my personal details and whether I have children in school you only needed to have read my very first post to know the answer to that one - or my first private email to you.

My right to privacy is also protected on this website. Again if you only took time to read all posts you would know what I think about people revealing their names and personal details under the current climate and with Mrs Coupe as headteacher after her record over recent months. I have made my views clear and given my reasons on many occasions. Check what has happened.

Finally Mrs Peacock. You know full well that we have discussed the comments about you, repeated to me, by private message. YOU and I both know that. You corrected me and I apologised. You know that. I can only think that you have brought it up here in public after my apology to you, as a malicious attack on me. I have no intention of printing any names on here - especially as you have already told me by email that there was no truth in it.

I do not intend to waste any more time responding to posts such as yours. It helps no-one, gets nothing sorted out and does not move the debate forward.

For information READ THE FORUM and VISIT MY WEBSITE where you will see a long list of facts. http://martonschoolforum.co.uk

frankg · Fledgling Poster Joined: 23 Feb 2006 Posts: 1

Despite following all the stories connected with Marton School in then local press, I now find a leaflet posted through my door highlighting the "so called facts".

I am not associated with the school in any capacity and therefore can only make an opinion based on what I read. If what you say in your leaflet is true, then immediate action is needed. Having had previous dealings with the local authority in various capacities, Good Luck!

How must the children at the school feel when they pick up your leaflet. Many of "the facts" will up to now have been away from the children, not any more.

How much did your leaflet cost? Did you get clearance to use the photo's?

Have you not been able to get answers from the Freedom of Imformation Act?

I will now follow the saga on this site.

Alan Veale · Master of Posters Joined: 07 Oct 2005 Posts: 118

Thank you for your posting, frankg. Although you say you are not associated with the school, you are nonetheless welcome to contribute a viewpoint. That was our intention in distributing the leaflet – to make more people aware of the growing problem in the community, and that specifically includes the children.

If I may, I will take this opportunity to explain some more of our thinking, and answer your questions at the same time:

Although the problems at school started with the arrival of Mrs Coupe in September 2004, only a very few teaching staff were “in the know” – because at first it just looked like a relatively short-term difficulty in connection with new personalities getting to know each other. As time progressed, it became clear to staff that Mrs Coupe was a very strong personality, and would have her way no matter what resistance to change she may meet. Negotiation and compromise just were not in it! By the end of the academic year (July 2005), there had been numerous “casualties” among the staff, and the school itself had received an OFSTED report that shocked both staff and parents with its mark of “underachieving”.

If you browse through the postings on this forum you will find plenty more detail that has only been summarised very briefly on the leaflet you received. It was only in July last year that parents became aware that some of the teaching staff were positively desperate for help. It seemed that the Governing body could do nothing for them (the Chair had just resigned), and the LEA were giving the Head Teacher their full backing (which is to be expected).

Since that date there has been a growing nucleus of resistance to the present school administration, based initially on the formation of a web-site discussion forum (this site’s predecessor), and then with the formation of the Action Group, who are responsible for the leaflet through your door. Between September 2005 and now, we have been pressing the authorities, both at school and at the Council, to address our complaints and concerns about the administration of Marton Primary School. In so doing, we have been actively condemned by both the present Chair of Governors and the Director of Children’s Services. Our freedom of speech has been threatened on numerous occasions, in contravention of Human Rights, and a Blackpool Councillor who tried to ask questions himself has even been slandered and criticised by his colleagues. (Yes – we do need all the luck we can get in dealing with this Authority!)

Hence our determination to spread the word further – particularly now the Heads at other Blackpool schools have started to query the amount of attention that is being given to Marton by the LEA.
Questions DO need to be asked – by everybody who still believes that our elected representatives should be working FOR us – not against us.

As for the children – we feel that they are as entitled to know about this as much as anybody. It is their education that is at risk, and therefore their very futures. I tell my own children everything they need to know, and my daughter has even contributed to this forum. Why shouldn’t they? Better that they get to know the true facts than the misinformation that is fed them through certain school sources. One child told my son that his father was “a criminal” because he was part of the Action Group! Where did that come from? Incidentally, the photographs featured on the leaflet are not of Marton children, and the design is a licensed commercial product. We paid for the production of the leaflet ourselves, which is a measure of our determination to see this “saga” through to the very end.

Finally, my apologies for the length of this posting, but I hope all new visitors to this site will appreciate that those of us at the heart of this dispute are not out on a “witch-hunt”, and we are not merely involved because we have nothing better to do. I, like so many of my colleagues in the Action Group, have seen the school in happier times, and genuinely wish to see those times restored. If anyone reading this shares those same feelings, then please contribute to this forum with constructive suggestions and debate. There is no room here for those whose object is merely to ridicule the existence of this forum, or the people who contribute to it.

Alan Veale.

WAYNE HEYS · Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:23 pm Post subject: FOA Frankg

To add to the post above ,the Action Group is basically made up of a group of people who were/are very proud of Marton School and everything that it stood for,furthermore the people like myself who have put a lot of time into highlighting how an excellent school can suddenly find itself on skid row, will not be put off from returning the school to the position it was in under the previous head.
For one of the schools senior teachers to be suspended for 8 month's without having her case heard is a disgrace.Your taxes are being used like mine and many others to finance this whole fiasco,yet this situation should have been resolved many month's ago.
As I have got involved in this fiasco,it becomes evident that people who have jobs in authority,do not want to see the little old parent question any decision's made in regard to the school,THAT IS SIMPLY NOT ACCEPTABLE, to be labelled a "vindictive minority" is an insult to the integrity of anyone who has general concerns about the future of the school.
The Chairman of the Governors sends home letters which fail to answer any of the points that are put before him, if he was to look at the complaints that the Action Group have and deal with them with an open mind,then he may start to win back some of the respect that he has lost with many people, to inform Parents of incidents is fine,to simply wave away complaints without evidence is simply irresponsible,and that is why the Action Group will continue to put pressure on people who have the power to make decision's that affect all the children at Marton School.

R. Thornton · Reaching Full Speed Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 99

Just to clarify a couple of things about the leaflet in response to frankg's post:

The photos are copyright free photographs available on a free leaflet design site on the web - I hope you didn't think they were local school children!

Yes, we have tried using the Freedom of Information Act on several occasions and have been partly successful. I have been refused 3 times by Mrs Coupe to access the notes taken by Mr Coupe at the post Ofsted meeting. The request now lies with the Commissioner but his department deals with issues on a first come first served basis and on 'seriousness' so I could be waiting a long time.