Pat, please re-read my post. I did not state that we only have these posts to know what is true. I pointed out that this is where we are able to gather some infomation and form our own opinions. That is why i asked you if you possibly have some information to support your view that alan was lying. I did not accuse you nor did i state that you were stupid because of your views. I simply asked you for any extra information.
That you took offense at this is a judgment error on your part and i certainly did not intend to offend you.
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 8:18 am Post subject: All quiet?
It’s been a week now since I revealed that an official investigation was under way into a leaked confidential file (see my post “Governance of the Worst Kind” above).
Understandably, there was quite a reaction among the people who visit this site, and probably the most interesting was from “Pat”, who doubted the truth of my statements. As there has been no further come-back since I invited Pat to check it out personally with either Steve Weaver or David Lund, we must assume that he/she is now satisfied that my claim is genuine.
What I find more curious is the lack of anything coming out of the school. In the past, whenever there has been anything “controversial” posted on this site, Mr Turner (Chair of Governors) has always been quick to send a newsletter to parents condemning the Action Group and this website in the most virulent terms! So what happened last week?
Could it be that Mr Turner was too busy? He was, after all, preoccupied running for election onto Fylde Borough Council as a Liberal Democrat. For those of you who missed it, that particular party promoted that they believe “In open government that listens to the people and to their elected representatives”. I would like to think it was because Mr Turner has previously demonstrated that he personally does NOT share those beliefs that he failed (again) to get elected.
So what about Mrs Coupe? Was she incapable of composing anything suitable without her pet monkey? Perhaps she did? Have I missed it? Has anyone out there seen anything sent home from school to confirm or deny the existence of an investigation into the acts of one of its governors? This is certainly the kind of subject that should be of interest to parents. After all, there was no hesitation from Mrs Coupe in telling everyone who would listen that the last OfSTED inspection had been more favourable. Would this (more unsettling) news not be equally important to share with parents – and to reassure them that the culprit would be found, and dealt with appropriately?
Given that I have complained about the state that my son came home in few weeks ago,the coupe person has deemed that she has concerns about me with my children......I believe this partly to do with my visiting my son each lunchtime since the sorry incident. My son is very reassured to see me . the high level of brow beating all be it pleasently presented is still a heavey enviroment for any child......funny because I had concerns before her about the standard of care my son recieves at school. How come my many visits and phone calls to social services myself have fallen on conviniently deaf ears. What a blatant cover up!. So much for child protection. Had I brought him to school that soiled i would have had the riot squad on my back and rightly so. How is it so heavily biased to such a blantent lack of the duty of care that school should be providing. She has put a referral to social services this lady obviously plays dirty.she has also played the diplomatic card and due to child protection issues in the interests of my son the Gazette are not printing the story about him being in school in such a shocking state..I imagine that she is focusing acertain amount of time being on my case ,such is her MO!
I have found that coupe reacts in the same way no matter what you try to bring to her attention(large or small). personaly i find it grossly inappropriate. Passive is not appropriate all the time , all behavours have an appriate space tobe this is how children learn emotional skills as well as academic ones. I went into school today and with alittle time spare i took a look in the field to check on my boys. My eldest whoes jumper went missing iin school nearly 2 weeks ago was without jumper and coat(his choice but not my recomendation). My youngest came to the railing with his coat hood balanced on his head but no arms in the coat and the hat he took into school this morning was not on his head. This little boy has just finished antibiotcs over the weekend and so i find it CARE-LESS to leave him like this without reguard for his health. When i mentioned this to the very frosty dinner lady she showed no concernn attall even when i made her aware of his very recent infection. Even his vest and shirt were hanging out allowing a good draft entry.My comment was that the school was efficient but not caring , she of course didnt agree i would welcome feedback on this.
To have such a robotic person at the helm is in itself concerning without the many occurences over her time at the school. lets face it she can be convincing-I moved my eldest boy fromHaweside in October on the grounds that i thouyght the school to be sound. It is sound so long as you comform and dont have an enquiring mind!!!!!
niether myself or my children fit this category....Oh dear! , a personality will never do will it.I will put a request in tomorrow asking for an explanation of the findings you posted last week. It is a gross leak of information and to me further endorses my lack of faith in the functioning of the govening body. Giselle _________________ What cannot speak..... cannot lie!
Please don't think i am not sympathetic but unfortunately, when at school if the children decide not to wear their coat or jumper out to play, the staff can not force them. The amount of times my child has met me after school without jumper is too numerous to mention, but that is down to my child. I do however sympathise with how you must be feeling regarding the problems you and your children are having at school. So am i to understand from your posting that you have been reported to social services? What for? Surely complaining about what you view as lack of care within school-time( not cleaning your child when he soils himself in class etc.) shows you are a parent who supports their children.
Though like many have said before, nothing would surprise me.
Thankyou for your comments.As a parent it is difficult not to go over the top when things happen to our children that given a choice we would not allow. But when at school you rely and trust thiss enviroment to not only educate but also meets their needs in an age appropriate way. As my youngest is in reception , I personaly feel it appropriate for some overseeing of such things as coats. As I mentioned my other son age 8nearly9 was on the field with no jumper(because it is missing)and also no coat .He knows that I wouldnt recomend this. I do not feel that his health is vulnerable and given his age he has more personal choice than his younger brother. I welcome any feedback on this.
I have experienced my youngest coming out of school late Jan when the weather was prity extreme,with his hoood balanced on his head no hat and no jumper( in his bag). Given that he had been off school with chicken pox and immediatly after if not simaltaniously the flue.He was very low and had lost a dramatic amount of weight.
On a positive note I have witnessed asupply teacher in reception who lovinglywrapped scarves andfastened coats of every child whopassed her on their way out. i find a high majority of the staff prity cold fish underthe excessive smiles and high pitched tones.
I was denied access to my youngest today. Coupe closed the barn doors saying that she has concerns about my intentions in school. It realey is oldhat she appears to play the same record over and over again.A form of brow beating masked by hushed tones. I commented to her that she had no need to keep repeating herself, and that I was not a junior child who would accept being repeated to.
Yes she has made an official refferal to social services. As i saiid last night she plays dirty.Let her get on with it her reign at this pitch cannot continue for much longer and calling in social services will not put off pursueing justice within Marton School.I have put a request in writing today for an explanation over the packages sent to the media and sky news ect. I also asked coupe to expand on her "concerns about my intentions in school". Funny how this marries with my uncovering somthing else lacking the care of my children. Most schools opperate an open door policy. This is obviously not so at Marton, certainly someone as intelligent and observant as my goodself. Please I didnt quote myself as educated because I am not formaly educated, although thinking abouyt it i do hold a degree in the University of life as most do. Giselle _________________ What cannot speak..... cannot lie!
Just a quick mention that the news letter today made no reference to last weeks announcement by Alan and also no cute letters from the chair of guvners. It appears to be radio silence at present... Giselle _________________ What cannot speak..... cannot lie!
Nothing has been said about the confidential files. Is it something else that will be covered up? I'm sure that's what the local authority would like.
Mr Veale, I hope you will tell us if and when you hear anything. It should be very interesting. There are so many underhand things that have gone on. People out of the area have been shocked when told about events.
As for Mr Turner, I noticed he sent a letter to the Gazette thanking the 403 people who voted for him in the local elections, not enough to get elected, unfortunately for him. It seems a lot more people were very sceptical of his party's slogan, and voted for other candidates.
Mrs Rousseau, I hope you get your problems with school sorted out.
Thankyou I will address all things within marton and anything regarding this very corrupt councel. It would appear that many stalling tactics are being played. I may appear to manyasthe bumbling detective columbo,you know the one, scruffy raincoat,asks bizarre non-sensecal questions. YET, always gets there.Marton realry is learning curve,once i have got my head around the depths that this tirant will go to in order stay in her control tower it realey isnt soscary infact you soon realise the real weaknesses behind such a person. I dont have to stoop to such levels of coverups ect.It doesnt matter to when the day will be but it WILL be soon. I guess I owe acosmetic apology for my reference to her throwing a"sickie",as her father in law has died.Condolances,God is good but he doesnt like corruption but game on I*m afraid. This person is trying to directly attack my children and I take that REAL personal, as wouldany passionate parent.
I have had a meeting with Mrs brooks after school,without warning MRS Norbwerry was also present underthe excuse she would take notes. I made it known that this made things a little uneven.I havent recieved a reply to my request for docentation s in school and my own official enquiry about the leaked documents.Also basic explanation of her "concerns at my intentions in school" Why does it take somany weeks to answer a simple question. As quoted by Mrs No5rberry my enquires seem to be swallowed up by thesystem,nopw whose system would that be.........the democratic faiir play system OR the my way or no wayy system adopted and force fed by the illustrious leader we so dearly know as coupe, please feel free to vote on that one!!!!!!
Airing my own dirty washing is no fun but if it exposes the wrong doings then i shall go for it. My yr 4son was on a trip today. My experience as a lone parent in recieptof free school meals is that otherschools provide this from school kitchen ,without fuss or drama. It wasnt even offered at Marton and as per usual any enquir5es are not encouraged.At least Mrs Brooks did comfirm she had also experienced in others schools. Why are there so many areas in this school where freewill choice is not available or manipulated, which amounts to the same. Giselle _________________ What cannot speak..... cannot lie!
I have been following this forum in its entirety over the past two years, and all I have witnessed is several people invest a lot of time on this forum. Slanderous comments have been exchanged, insults and inaccurate personal information, and most of the postings come from people who don’t even have children in the school.
Firstly I give credit to Giselle Rosseau for making a stand for “what she believes” is true. Unfortunately she appears to be doing this in a very humiliating way. I have witness her waiving a dirty soiled pair of her Childs underpants in the face of a current reception teacher in the playground. How revaluating is this woman? Imagine how your child felt when you publicly embarrassed him like this. Her rampant attempts to rial members off staff within the school are obvious, making staff jobs more difficult. Miss/Mrs/ or Ms Rosseau, surely you can see what this looks like from the outside, you really are not doing yourself any favours never mind the school. (also please invest in a spell checker before posting)
Credit must be given to every one involved in this site for your commitment, but haven’t you missed the bus so to speak. With the OFSTED inspection completed, whilst not an excellent outcome can we all not just be contempt with satisfactory?
If you really don’t like the school, why not move your child. By removing your child this will impact the school harder, every child is a channel for funding, by removing your child the funding will stop. Also the school will have to explain why children are leaving.
I hear Roseacre is good!
As I have witnessed in the past peoples posts get removed or more recently edited, wilst I have kept this post accurate I won’t hold my breath that I will be here in the morning.
i agree with some of your post david and whilst i can appreciate how frustrating these things can be for some people, i agree that there are some ways of handling situations that are better than others. As you have stated quite a few people have been posting for some time now but just because the ofsted report had improved from the previous one, both under the current leadership, it does not mean that all is well again. The root cause of many issues raised on this site are still at Marton.
Unfortunately it can take considerably longer than two years to resolve problems embedded within any organisation.
I am one of those parents whose child is at Marton and due to my circumstances i am not in a position to remove them from Marton. Whilst there are many issues raised i have been very fortunate with my childs teachers these last two years, as said over and over again many of the staff still have the pupils interests at heart.
Finally i apologise if i have made any gramatical or punctuation errors, but lets be sensible about this, it's really not an important issue, is it?
Giselle is a concerned parent and whilst her methods may not be to everyones taste they are her methods, and she has stated previously about her spelling.
Now come on lets get back to the issues and not be side-lined by personal jibes.
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 12:02 pm Post subject: What price Blackpool?
There have been some interesting and valid points made on this forum over the last few days, and while I am tending to withdraw from this debate now for personal reasons, I would like to make some observations:
While parents have a legal responsibility to ensure their children attend school, it is the duty of the local authority to provide a satisfactory standard of care for those children, both academic and spiritual.
The local authority therefore has to ensure an appropriate number of schools within its borough to cover the needs of the community, providing the necessary balance according to geography and population. Parents then have a choice to make, often governed primarily by the closeness of a school to their home.
If something goes wrong in a school, for whatever reason, parents may then remove their children to a suitable alternative, providing there are places available – but where this takes place in large numbers (as has happened at Marton, losing the equivalent of a whole year’s new intake), then it is clearly a problem that the local authority needs to investigate. No parent would willingly disrupt their child’s early years in school without good reason, and the falling roles at Marton Primary School should have rung alarm bells with the LEA – especially coupled with the number of complaints/grievances lodged by both parents and teaching staff at both local and national level.
Quite simply, the LEA have NOT treated this issue seriously, and there have been far too many public statements from that department trying to make it seem that the school was “making good progress”. OfSted reports are not necessarily a good guide to how a school is really performing, as the national press have been arguing for some time. It is far better to look at how the pupils fare themselves in their academic results, and to listen to both the parents and teachers. In that number, it is not sufficient to merely listen to the ones still remaining at school, but also to hear the voices of those who have severed their connections – for whatever reason. In fact, I would contend that it is precisely that latter section of voices that need to be considered by the LEA, if they are to stand any chance of addressing the problems that are still self-evident.
It is a simple fact that the school still includes some excellent teaching staff who are doing their very best to look after the charges in their care. It is that central core that parents like Tracey still value, particularly if they really do not have the option of removing their children. What the school does NOT have is good management. We are in a position now where the entire governing body of the school are under investigation for what will almost certainly lead to civil (if not criminal) action against one or more of their number.
Speaking as a parent who HAS removed his child from this school, I could easily turn my back on Marton and take no interest. But I find it more than a little curious that the huge weight of evidence of the problems there are still being covered up (ineffectually) by the local authority. My children now attend other schools in the borough, but is Blackpool still the right place to educate my children when the authority itself behaves so irresponsibly?
I have had concerns about this authority for some time now it is intrinsicaly flawed,inmy opinion. The underground goingson at Marton ,including holy coverups is not at all reassuring .My methods are not always the wisest but I am willing to take ownership where appropriate
but I dont see others following any similar code of conduct. Being politly rude is still rude.
David Ross has disappeared as quickly as he came.Does anyon eelse acknowledg that I had already made good my comment about the sickie!He was quick to accuse but not so quick to apologise.......
Just to clarify my post about the school trip. Other schools provide free packed lunches to children on free school meals, and in my opinionso they should. Why should a school dictate this lack of choice t5o those who actually qualify.Is this democratic or for that matter even legal?
There has been a much nicer feelabout the school this last week due to someone absence. Staff arenot so tense and so the children are also less agitated.
We are encouraged as parentsto not take holidays interm time due to impact on learning. How is it then that teachers go oncourses in term without question. Our children are left with supply teachers,strangers to them in most cases. i knowof several parents whos children find this very unsettling indeed.Also as parents we arenot privy to the times when this occurs other than childrens comments to us.The level of trustthe school expects from us is very high,do we get this reciprecated, I think not.
Giselle _________________ What cannot speak..... cannot lie!
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 11:28 pm Post subject: Mr Ross
Hello Mr Ross.
re your post:-
"can we all not just be contempt with satisfactory?"
Marton used to be so much better - read the first two Ofsted reports. Many other schools in Blackpool are much better.
Slanderous comments have been exchanged, insults and inaccurate personal information
If you submit evidence of these to the local authority or Mrs Coupe they would be very grateful because we know that solicitors have been employed for two years to try to close this site
most of the postings come from people who don’t even have children in the school.
I notice you give no figures to support this statement. How do you reach this conclusion? However, I agree with Mr Veale - any school is important to its local community and is therefore important to EVERYONE in the community, especially for future generations. Just as hospitals, medical centres, local police etc etc are of importance to everyone not just to those who happen to be currently connected with them at any one time.
also please invest in a spell checker before posting
witness do you mean witnessed ?
waive do you mean wave ?
dirty soiled do you mean dirty, soiled
childs do you mean child's
revaluating now this one beats me. Could you mean 'revolting' ?
rial do you mean rile ?
contempt do you mean content ?
By removing your child this will impact the school harder, every child is a channel for funding, by removing your child the funding will stop. Actually 3 different sentences !
peoples do you mean people's ?
Perhaps if Giselle obtains one she could send you a copy !
HM, you have saved me a job. After David Ross criticised Mrs Rousseau's spelling, I was on the verge of going through his post and correcting all the errors. I was trying to decide whether it really was worth the effort, so I'm pleased you have done it instead. We all make the odd mistake, sometimes through carelessness, sometimes through lack of skill. I'm surprised Mr Ross didn't think about that before criticising somebody ele's spelling ability.
I was also going to make the other points you have made, HM. It really is a nonsense to say those who have no children in the school should have nothing to do with it any more. I have no relatives in the thirld world but it doesn't stop me campaigning and contributing money on their behalf. What a selfish, insular attitude if we were all only concerned with things that we directly come into contact with in our own little worlds. Also, as HM says, on what is David Ross basing his assumption that most of the people contributing to this forum have no children at the school? He can't possibly know unless they, themselves, have let it be known.
Perhaps Mr Ross would like to enlighten us as to his personal involvement with the school? I look forward to reading about it. _________________ EVENTUALLY THE TRUTH WILL OUT, JUSTICE WILL BE DONE.
Thanks Tracey for your comments, I can understand your position.
But I would especially like to thank HM for correcting my spellings and grammatical error. PS you missed a full stop at the end of your sentence. Oh and did you use finger spaces?
Nice to see Alans still around. Thought you'd disappeared! (now you’ve got me thinking – do I need an apostrophe on Allan’s name?)
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