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JACKIE Mildly Opinionated

Joined: 26 Jul 2006 Posts: 26
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 1:46 pm Post subject: Inspection due |
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The school will be inspected this week on Wednesday and Thursday.
Anybody who feels they would like to make comments should speak to the Lead inspector. Although, if you will be making a complaint, it is likely the school will do its best to make sure you can't speak to them. There is talk of keeping inspectors away from certain areas.
For those who will be making a demonstration, good luck, and also good luck to those who will be at the sharp end.
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Giselle Rosseau Something to Say

Joined: 15 Mar 2007 Posts: 32 Location: Blackpool
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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Hello there Jackie,
The plot thickens no wonder Mr Turner has rung me direct rather than using the lengthy complaints process.I have every intention of speaking with the inspectors-are these ofstead or another body. Can we trust their account of any findings? Giselle _________________ What cannot speak..... cannot lie! |
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JACKIE Mildly Opinionated

Joined: 26 Jul 2006 Posts: 26
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 4:25 pm Post subject: Inspection |
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The school will be visited by a team from Ofsted. Good luck with your concerns. I know you have been in school lately. You never know, you may bump into Mr Lund if he sees fit to speak to the team before they start. This could be a good opportunity to put your side of the story forward along with anyone else.
I really hope the Ofsted Team will be thorough and fair this time. |
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mr.wilson Getting Started

Joined: 12 Oct 2005 Posts: 14 Location: south shore
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Maybe a few banners and a peaceful demonstration is the order of the day for the visit, it may be the only way parents past and present are able to get their concerns across. The last inspection allegedly saw a select few parents able to give their opinions on the school and they were allegedly hand picked. This may be the best opportunity so far to get across the terrible state of affairs at the school. What do you think? |
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HM Something to Say

Joined: 16 Oct 2005 Posts: 48
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:20 pm Post subject: Ofsted |
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I hope that Giselle, and the īGuestīto the forum who his having so much difficulty gaining proper help for her child with special needs, can make contact with these people. It needs to be publicly acknowledged that problems have never gone away and that new problems are being experienced. Mr Turner is once again being shown at his cynical worst, thinking he can manipulate circumstances once again and not being completely truthful with Giselle, in an attempt to cover things up.
Yes it will be very interesting to see whether Mr Lund appears on the first day - I would be surprised if he didnīt.
Sadly, I donīt see much coming out of this visit other than the usual īthe head teacher has a vision which we supportī. |
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JACKIE Mildly Opinionated

Joined: 26 Jul 2006 Posts: 26
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:54 pm Post subject: vision |
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HM,
The Head does have a vision. The same vision as 2 years ago. That vision has brought about the worst results in Marton's history - record low levels of pupils attending the school, record low levels of intake and record numbers of staff leaving/left the school. |
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HM Something to Say

Joined: 16 Oct 2005 Posts: 48
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 9:43 pm Post subject: Demonstration |
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| Please send details by private message of any planned demonstration and or approaches to the inspectors. We do not want a repetition of the farce where a small, specially selected group, were interviewed by the HMI and then quoted as being representative of the school. |
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mary Reaching Full Speed

Joined: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 81
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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My big worry is that this inspection will be yet another whitewash, especially if Mr Lund gets involved on the first day and presents his case - as he did last time.
It will also be a whitewash if parents are hand-picked to speak to the inspectors - as we know they were last time.
Perhaps the inspectors need to have this website pointed out to them - let them read what parents have to say about this school now.
As Jackie has said, last time the inspectors fell for the Headteacher's vision. Will they fall for it again, despite the fact that, two years on, this vision has yet to be realised? _________________ EVENTUALLY THE TRUTH WILL OUT, JUSTICE WILL BE DONE. |
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Guest Fledgling Poster

Joined: 11 Mar 2007 Posts: 4
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:07 am Post subject: School Inspection |
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| What a good idea of Mr Wilson's maybe a visual presence from dissatisfied parents will hopefully convince the inspectors that there is something seriously lacking at Marton school namely a competent headteacher, who has the ability to run the school without resorting to intimidation & bullying of both pupils & staff to get her own way. |
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IKT Fledgling Poster

Joined: 20 Mar 2007 Posts: 4
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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| So let me get this right! If they do ok in their OFSTED it's a white wash! If they do badly it'll just confirm what you thought! You bunch of sad losers! Get out more...really do get out more! |
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Giselle Rosseau Something to Say

Joined: 15 Mar 2007 Posts: 32 Location: Blackpool
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:36 am Post subject: |
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Dear IKT,
Dont you realise how baseline you realey are.You have no substance to your comments. I dont have good writing skills but i have content. You obviously dont like the truth,be it so. As for black and white comments if only it was that straight forward ,this ongoing situation would have been over before now.Your forgetting that children are in the frontline of this travesty.Its interesting the personality types that are supporting the goings on, dont you agree. Giselle _________________ What cannot speak..... cannot lie! |
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Guest Fledgling Poster

Joined: 11 Mar 2007 Posts: 4
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:09 am Post subject: OFSTED Visit |
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So IKT thinks we're a bunch of sad losers he/she obviously spends the majority of his/her precious time with his/her head buried in the sand as the only losers in this unfortunate mess are the children of Marton school, anyone with the manipulative skills the head teacher possesses would find it rather easy to pull the wool over the eyes of anyone,IKT is obviously a prime example, the current head is excellent at "Talking the Talk" & ticking all the right boxes when it suits, but sadly lacking when it comes to actually "Walking the Walk". Why is it that there are more than twice as many child places (currently 69) available at Marton than any other school in the area ? Why have so many of the staff who worked under Mrs Lancaster now left ? Why are the majority of the current staff so unhappy and stressed ? I'm sure IKT will no doubt have the answer's to these questions & several others that need answering.
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Tracey Reaching Full Speed

Joined: 16 Oct 2005 Posts: 69
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:55 am Post subject: |
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unfortunately IKT only further substantiates my view on the lack of substance shown by those who do not agree with this site. Whether you agree with any comments or not, some parents are concerned and have constantly asked questions. Our children are our main concern and if that means accessing this site, etc so be it.
If IKT is not concerned for their child, who i assume attends Marton, why is he/she 'wasting their time' posting on this site? Please do so but in a constructive manner, post a reply like the adult i am assuming you are and put your point across. Whether we agree with it or not is irrespective, i value input from anyone. But please don't be petty and don't be rude their is no need. All you have done is make yourself come across like a teenager who isn't allowed out after 8 pm. Not a very nice or engaging quality. Certainly not enough for an educated debate. |
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R. Thornton Reaching Full Speed

Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 99
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:48 pm Post subject: OFSTED |
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I have refrained from responding to IKT until now, until I have calmed down a little - and because I do get out a lot, including meeting with personal friends who were Ofsted inspectors. I know the system and if you had read all the posts properly on this site you would have known that from the outset we never ever claimed that there had been any whitewash. Ofsted do not work in that way. We stated the obvious - the first team made mistakes and did not assess all the evidence - this complaint was sent to the highest authority and is still being dealt with. The problem has been that the team in question was sacked by the government as a provider which is why we now have Nord Anglia.
The last visit was very unprofessional and our complaint was not that a whitewash had been carried out - it obviously hadn't - but statistics quoted were not valid based on the samples taken. Issues which should have been addressed were also ignored - with the excuse that the team had to keep to a very narrow agenda, which is probably true. However a major fault of any Ofsted inspection is that narrow agenda.
Since then results have fallen and much more has happened.
I will not shout 'whitewash', I do not want a terrible Ofsted report. I want the local authority to have ALL the evidence put before them that this school needs serious changes and a proper effort made to get it back to the level it once was. Until we get a proper report, based on ALL the evidence and ALL opinions that will not happen.
Sadly I do not think that the Ofsted system is the system to achieve this. There have been record numbers of complaints about Ofsted around the country which is why the whole system has been undergoing such big changes over the last 2 years. We are in the midst of yet another big change with Marton's current visit being one of the last in the old system. No doubt this current report, because of this, will be rushed and lost in the scheme of things when the new reporting begins in May, and this is my fear.
So IKT, please get your facts correct. Read all the posts from the start and learn about all that has happened before you call me a sad person.
You provide a prime example of what we have been up against for the last two years in attempting to get a quality, stable school for the local community. |
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Giselle Rosseau Something to Say

Joined: 15 Mar 2007 Posts: 32 Location: Blackpool
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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Hello All,
Dont know what to say about IKT!
A reasonable amount of egg on face me thinks.As for disbelieveing my conversation with Martin Bradley on Monday.......... I took my OFSTED feedback form into school this morning. I made it clear to Mrs Nande that I was not happy to trust the school structure to safley pass it on to Mr Bradley. On enquiry Mr Bradley appeared in the foyer. He was welcoming and was surprised that anyone would disbelieve him ringing me. I will Just add that he is aware of and also watching this sight with interest.
As I suspected he had not behaved out of his remit. Nord Anglia had passed on mine and other numbers without delay . I spoke to him within a short time. He listened and also asked about positive experiences of the school which I also spoke of because there are some very good things going on, just out of kilter at this time.
I met with guest last night to allow them to photo copy the OFSTED survey and contact details for Nord Anglia as they hadnt been given them. Does the school have a legal duty to ensure that even parents of excluded children have current news that other parents are privy to? Giselle
PS.....sincere apologies to Mrs Norbury it was Mrs Nande I spoke to this morning -sorry _________________ What cannot speak..... cannot lie!
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