| Archive for martonschool.myfreeforum.org A forum to discuss issues affecting Marton Primary School |
| MartinRogers |
Open question to ADMINDear Sir/Madam,As I’m sure you’re aware, I have just registered on your forum as a user. I’m sure many users of your forum are glad of anonymity (of which I respect), but as seen as you have taken it upon yourself to become the new governing board for the school (by setting up this forum) I would be interested to hear why you never reveal your identity. As you are the admin and the first point of contact for the administration of this site, I have trawled the many pages on this site, and alas!, no sign of your name, and although you mock other users for doing so, even you went to the efforts to sign up an ambiguous hotmail account under the name of ‘admin.martonschoolforum@hotmail.co.uk’. To that end, it begs the question, what exactly have you got to hide? Are you even connected to the school? If you feel I’m off par with my comments, I would welcome you to enlighten me of your name. Perhaps even further contact information other than a 'free Hotmail' email address. Martin R |
| R. Thornton |
Privacy issuesOh dear, yet another poster with nothing positive to contribute - merely trying to stir something up. Worse still a poster who clearly either has not read ALL the issues on the forum or has chosen to ignore them.It has been posted many times on this forum that one of the main concerns was the post Ofsted meeting - which took place BEFORE the action group was formed. Mr Coupe was present at the meeting, taking notes when it was clearly stated in letters to parents that ONLY parents of children in school were to attend. I am aware he was not on police business - I checked with Lancashire Police BUT everyone was aware that he is a police officer. I have twice been refused copies of the notes taken which I requested under the freedom of information act. Now, if you can give me a rational explanation why the husband of the headteacher should attend in the first place, secondly why he was not party to Mrs Coupe's own rules, thirdly why notes needed to be taken aand fourthly why those notes have remained strictly private to the Coupes - possible (but this is pure speculation) transgressing Data andProtection Laws then I too might suggest that people on this forum need no longer use pseudonyms and the site administrator could be more open. Until then I do not agree with you that anyone has anything to hide. It is in everyone's interests to maintain privacy considering the way people involved in trying to ask questions about school and authority mal-administration has been treated. Just ask Mr Veale about this - he was brave enough to stand up and offer his identity and has since suffered constant abuse. A further point. I did actually contact Mr Turner by post - not through the forum - in the vain hope that he might be able to mediate in this mess. I explained my personal reasons why I retained a pseudonym, I have witnesses to the situation I described to Mr Turner regarding a court appearance and why AT THE MOMENT I remain anonymous. All I received in reply was a mocking letter - which I of course retained should there be a future court case. I naturally advise everyone to post on here anonymously. This does not detract from the value of the forum or the merit of those posting - it is honest facts and opinions I am interested in. Just in case you have anything to do with Enigma - no I am not the site administrator - he/she will probably be reeling more from that accusation than from posts such as yours. |
| MartinRogers |
R.Thornton, Thank you for your input towards my question, unfortunately as you may wish to observe, my question was directed towards the Admin of the forum. I’m sure the site administrator has a legal obligation to give adequate contact information, as they are held accountable for the postings on this site. I just wish to request said contact information.
On another note R.Thornton, how can you expect school authorities to take your complaint seriously, when you don’t wish do give out your contact information. I have no doubt that when you submitted your question/complaint to the school they probably made you aware of their privacy policy (as would any other school or company) that they would not enter into any investigations or complaints with out an appropriate name and address. (you could be any Tom, Dick, or Harry) I wouldn’t be at all surprised if this thread is removed, it’s not my intention to cause offence, I primarily want what’s best for the school and ultimately the children, but by the same token I will endeavour to do this in a way that gives respect to ALL the hard working staff in school. All I’m asking for is sufficient contact information for the site moderator/administrator. Martin R |
| stan |
Isn't it clearly obvious why people do not wish to give their names!!!
- The last person who openly questioned what was happening at this school was suspended. - A police officer has been seen taking notes at a primary school meeting. - Another meeting was by ticket invite only with security (big hefty blokes) on the door. - Coucil employees who don't even work at the school have been threatened with action against them if they mention MArton school again at their workplace. - Teachers are too scared to ask questions or raise any doubts about issues at school. - The term "Remeber what happened to Mrs Alderson" has been used on at least one occasion to silence someone.... Read this site and it is obvious why admin. does not give her / his really name!! I too would be anxious. People are scared! |
| MartinRogers |
Stan, you may have missed my point. As the administrator is responsible for the content of this site, he/she has a legal obligation to relieve their contact information upon request – regardless of their opinions or even who they work for. Therefore I require that person to contact me with their details.
Martin R |
| Lisa |
I assume Martin Rogers is your real name them? What is your involvement in the issues at Marton? Are you a parent or member of staff? I get the feeling that you are just trying to make trouble. If you are not, I apologise and would ask that you refrain from making people feel uncomfortable because they don't want to give their real names.
Alan Veale, Wayne Heys, Mrs Peacock and Mr Bamborough have all been brave enough to name themselves. And they have all suffered for this. So please don't flog this issue anymore. The postmaster has set up a means of communication for concerned people and we should respect that. If you don't like the set up then don't look at the website and/or post on it. The judge's decision is final so to speak and I don't think people should be criticising or hounding him/her. It's a shame that most (not all) of the posters 'for' Mrs Coupe/Mr Turner etc have resorted to mud slinging, ridicule and bad language (I refer to the previous website too). This was witnessed 'in the flesh' so to speak when these supporters heckled people who were speaking at the public meeting last year. So please let's have some constructive points of view about the important issues. |
| stan |
Well maybe they do have a legal obligation... I am not a legal expert so unsure..
I do know however that some other people who are mentioned on this iste have legal obligations, but they seem to ignore this! Missing the point?? I am just stating the facts... I post here form a very netrual standpoint, but if I was in the camp that is opposed to Mrs Coupe and her regime I would be very anxious to state my real name unless I was very brave, stupid or not involved in the school, LEA or council in any such way!! My biggest gripe is the bullying and abuse of power that has gone on and from a trade union point of view the shocking suspension and victimisation of a senior member of staff. |
| BBCCSA |
RE: Legal obligationThere is no legal obligation for Admin to do anything at all. He is legally responsible for his own postings as are the rest of us but his legal resposibility ends there. Admin has been good enough to donate his/her time and effort to maintain this forum in order for some debate to be allowed. Anyone who doesn't agree with that knows where the little white x is on the top right hand corner of their screen!
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| MartinRogers |
BBCSSA, you may find your information inaccurate, which is now immaterial as my question has been answered, but I’m still amazed that admin continues to be belligerent in his/hers responses. The registration of a domain name for the site could be your legal upheaval. The onus and legal responsibility now passes to the registrar of the domain name, (thanks to R.Thornton listing it in another thread).
Here’s the information from Noninet, for the benefit of everyone on this site…. (Copied and pasted from Nominet) Fetching whois data for martonschoolforum.co.uk Domain name: martonschoolforum.co.uk Registrant: Alan Veale Registrant type: UK Individual Registrant's address: Flat 1 13, Eastbank Road Lytham St. Annes FY8 1ND GB Registrant's agent: Schlund + Partner AG [Tag = SCHLUND] URL: http://registrar.schlund.info Relevant dates: Registered on: 17-Feb-2006 Renewal date: 17-Feb-2008 (again, so surprises if this is removed, but, the above information is widely available on the internet.) My question answered. Many thanks. |
| annie |
Martin,
Why is it so important for you to know to know who people are? Please enlighten us. If not please leave the site and let those who post for a real reason (not just for fun or to get some strange kick out of being a pain in the a**e) get on and do so. Thank-you. |
| R. Thornton |
Forum - legal, administrative etc issues.Please take a close look at the two addresses which you have quoted above as being registered:-www.martonschoolforum.co.uk Compare this with the web address of this forum : http://martonschool.myfreeforum.org The forum is hosted under the second address. A domain name is purely a pointer - and as I thought made it clear before, can point to any host. I quote my original correspondence from my solicitor :- You have a contract with the company hosting your website and there is a “Tort” (meaning a civil wrong entitling you to damages by way of compensation) of “interfering with contractual relations”. There cannot be any legal move, as you claim, to the new domain name - it is a name registered with Nominet only and does NOT host the site. It is under Mr Veale's name only because he has been co-ordinating the action group, his name is already in the public domain and he is well respected by all and would always ensure that all correct legal proceedings are followed. If you have any concerns about Marton School's action group I am sure Mr Veale would be more than happy to meet with you. If you have any more questions about the site I am sure that the administrator would be more than happy to explain them. Because of difficulties over the past 18 months, mainly of communication, Marton School Forum is the ONLY medium by which concerned parents and members of the community are able to express views and ask questions. Yes it would be better if everyone could sit round the table but that needs to come from the school and the CSA. I am sure all parents, staff and concerned community members would welcome this. I contacted my solicitor in the first instance because of the attempts to stop this freedom of speech and was reassured that there are so many points in the Human Rights act which support our forum. It is your right to try to prevent our freedoms but I think your time would be better served if you could use your influence (whoever you are) to help resolve differences. There would then be no need for a forum at all. |
| Tracey |
Martin, if only you would put as much time and effort into helping us resolve the current situation at Marton (one way or the other) as you are into harrassing admin to state their identity. |