Further to Beverley's flier (handed out by her outside school last Thursday) I am just writing in support of her advice to parents to write to the Gazette. She has asked you to tell them how you feel about the school, Good or Bad. Also to write to David Lund, and to tell him how you feel.
As I said to her in person last week, we are all entitled to our opinions, and should be allowed to express ourselves. We may have differing views, but it is important that ALL parties are given their opportunity to speak out in a democratic society. The Action Group have come under fire too often because the authorities did not want our views to be heard, and have tried to have this site closed down on several occasions. They have also tried to stop us holding a public meeting, and they have tried to stop Jon Bamborough from asking questions in Council.
Don't let them! Speak out! Whatever your views, you should be free to let your voice be heard.
WAYNE HEYS
AS STATED PREVIOUSLY, EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO AN OPINION, AND NO ONE IS GOING TO TRY AND SILENCE ANYBODY FOR STATING THEIR BELIEFS,I do wonder though just what this lady thought about Marton during the lynn lancaster years !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
R. Thornton
Illegal actions
This REALLY makes me angry! When Jane Veale tried to give out notification about the website outside school, she was threatened with legal action by the school and so had to stop.
Mrs Peacock, however is allowed to distribute her leaflets – were these, by any chance, in favour of Mrs Coupe?
I had recently myself contacted the police and the council (contrary to the claims of Mr Turner some of us are responsible, lawful citizens) and here is the reply:
"Blackpool Council cannot give permission to distribute leaflets on the streets of Blackpool as it is an offence under the County of Lancashire Act."
Once again Mrs Coupe has flagrantly ignored the law! What Mrs Peacock did was illegal. We know that Mrs Coupe has already tried to close this site, and has taken time out of work to seek legal advice in Manchester (no doubt on full pay) – yet we know that such an action would be in direct contravention of at least 4 articles in the Human Rights Act.
Is there no end to the lengths Mrs Coupe will go to in order to get her own way and silence any reasonable discourse ?
Lisa
Mrs Peacock would be well advised to be careful how far she is willing to be used as a pawn in this game. Do not believe what you are being told. I urge you to please think about things clearly. I have always respected the way you gave so much time to help at school. You are a good person. But believe me what you are now doing is very dangerous. You are not helping the children, and I know you care about children.
And the same goes for the others that are being used. You are all being fed lies, or at best only half of the truth. The time has come for you to listen to BOTH sides. Anything that the Action Group has stated can be backed up by evidence.
Think clearly. There were no major problems at school pre Sep 04. This is a fact. Do you really think everyone would be making such a fuss if they just disliked someone? Do you think the scores of parents in the Action Group would spend so much time, money and effort having meetings, doing research and taking legal advice if there wasn't a major problem??? Several of the parents haven't even got children at the school anymore. Do you honestly think that they are doing all this to just cause trouble?
You are in a minority. You are being used. You may think that all the parents and teachers that you speak to agree with you. You are wrong. A handful (and I literally mean one handful) have never said a word against Mrs Coupe. But the majority of them do not agree with many of the things that are going on at school. It is just that they will never admit it to you because they are fearful of losing their jobs. The majority of parents and teachers are up in arms about things that are going on at Marton. And I think you'd be quite surprised at some of the names that have openly criticised things, and continue to do so.
Please think carefully about where your loyalties lie. When the truth unfolds you may end up being dragged down with the sinking ship. Speak to some parents who disagree with what's going on, and just listen.........
Peacock
what i thought of the school under mrs lancaster. ask my friends and they will tell you. i have told them many times that i thought i had chosen the wrong school for my daughter.
Peacock
mr thornton, mrs coupe knew nothing about me handing out leaflets at school. she was not there at the time and when she came out i hid behind a parent to hand them out,bad aren't i.
Peacock
To who it may concern [lisa].
It would be well advised that in future e-mails for you to consider your choice of words. whilst looking through this website I came across a letter posted on mon Jan 23rd 2006. regaurding Mrs Peacock, according to the agreement on the website it clearly states NO threatening or abusive e-mails. as I am Mrs Peacocks 30 year old son I found it very distressing that someone is advising my mother to be careful and that what she is doing is Very dangerous. Please can Lisa explain to me what Mrs Peacock has to be careful of and what is dangerous to her. As I am her son I am concerned and very dissapointed that such words are used. Please can I have an explanation about the way this email is worded
R. Thornton
Leaflets
Dear Mrs Peacock,
whether or not Mrs Coupe saw you, you were clearly breaking the law.
Despite what you may have read in the press, or in letters from Mr Turner, we are responsible adults. I checked with the police and the Council - distribution of leaflets on Blackpool streets is clearly NOT permitted. This is the reason we have not distributed leaflets ourselves outside school. We were responsible, we checked first - unlike yourself. You were very lucky that you were not seen - certainly I would have had no hesitation in reporting you to the police.
I am afraid this is an example of the behaviour we have had to face from Mrs Coupe and others connected with her such as yourself. You are quick to aim untruths and abusive remarks at us whilst all the time ignoring proper adult behaviour. Your group ignore the problems, you openly break the law, you ignore proper procedures. You yourself have simply provided ourselves, the rest of the local community and the authorities with more evidence of how low Marton School has sunk over the last 12 months.
This is why we continue, because in the long run, I firmly believe that good will triumph over wrongdoing. This next statement is not a threat, or aimed at attacking you in any way. It is simply a statement of fact. If you continue to break the law in any way I shall make sure that it is not ignored. If the action group can remain within the law, then so should the school and parents such as yourself.
HM
Mrs Peacock
I have just read these posts.
Mrs Peacock says "bad aren't i". This is unbelievable - you're actually pleased with yourself that you have 'got away with' breaking the law. It's no wonder everything is in such a mess.
Do you teach this sort of behaviour to your children ? That it's O.K. to do what you want so long as you can get away with it ?
Is this the type of person Mrs Coupe has for her supporters ?
and it's supposed to be the action group who are the wrongdoers !!
Lisa
Message for Mr Peacock
I can assure you I have only got your mum's interest at heart. There were certainly no threats made by me. I was merely warning your mum to be careful. I didn't mean that she was in any personal danger if that is what you are hinting at, but by her backing the terrible things that are being allowed to happen at Marton she is helping to make the school unsafe. I certainly would not be allowing my child to attend the school. Your mum is not being told the truth about things. It seems she had issues with the school prior to Mrs Coupe. That's fair enough. However, she obviously didn't feel as strongly as the 50 parents who have been unhappy with Marton since Mrs Lancaster left though, as she did not remove your sister from the school as they did. But it all now becomes abundantly clear why she is giving Mrs Coupe her full backing. I have heard of similar stories alleging that a couple of staff members have sworn undying allegiance to her because she has given them a job. This is misplaced loyalty at best. I prefer to get a more rounded view of things. I didn't make my decision on the issues at Marton until I had spoken to a variety of people with a wide range of views. And in the Action Group's favour they actually have documentary evidence to back up everything they have complained about. You can't really top that.
Why do you think 50 children were removed from Marton? Do you think this is a 'small group of vindictive parents' as keeps being quoted by the 'so called' chair of governors and Mr Lund? I have today seen confirmation of these figures together with dates from the council. These figures have not been made up. 31 of these children were removed prior to this Website even being set up - yet it is being blamed for them leaving. And another 11 left during the first half term week of this school year, another 8 in the weeks prior to Christmas and others are continuing to leave on a regular basis.
After reading R Thorton's posts, I am now concerned that your mum has become involved over her head, and could have actually got into trouble with the police for what she was doing. And as for the letter in the Gazette - can you say in all honesty that she wrote this herself? Please just advise her to be careful and take a minute to think about the quote by Albert Einstein that appears at the bottom of all of my posts.
Peacock
I have never aimed any untruth or made any abusive remarks against you.
I have no group behind me I am a parent with a child at school. I have my own views about things I am not being told anything by anyone I make my own mind up about things if this does not agree with your points of view then sorry but as Mr Veale says we are all entitled to our own veiws.
I do recall the msag group handing out leaflets around school as I was given one. so when you found out you could not do this you stopped well now I know I can not do this I will stop.
I teach my children to respect others I do not teach my children to break the law I do not take kindly to being told this is what I teach my children I do not normally break the law I am not proud of the fact that I may have broken a law. I was proud that Mrs Coupe had not seen me handing out these leaflets so she could not get accused of doing anything wrong, but sorry with the people who wish to oust the head she is to blame for everything.
how is a person handing out leaflets getting the school in a mess if that is the case you started it.
Peacock
TO Lisa, I may come across as a bit stupid and you may be concerned about me but the letter from me in the gazette was believe it or not all my own work I can sometimes be smart. perhaps I have got my self in trouble with the police or council about handing out those leaflets but it was nothing to do with anyone else just stupid old me.
chris
Peacock's flight of fancy
Thank you Mrs Peacock. I don't think we need any further evidence that you were NOT the author of the letter in the Gazette the other night.
Did somebody mention the word pawn.....?
Alan Veale
Truth or Dare!
There are some interesting points being raised in this debate on the subject of “truth”. I genuinely believe that Mrs Peacock is sincere in her belief that the Head Teacher has done no wrong, and yes, she is entitled to her opinion. Interestingly, it would appear that, out of all the people who have seen fit to contribute to this forum, it is Mrs Peacock who is in “the minority” – and for very good reason!
Lisa rightly refers to the evidence that has been collected by the Action Group. It is pointless for any of us to make wild accusations about wrong-doing without being able to present evidence to back that up. We can “express our opinions” all we like, but if we are to make out a genuine case of complaint for an authority to examine (as the DFES are currently doing), then we have to ensure that there is sufficient evidence to back up our claim.
When I first became involved in this campaign nearly six months ago, I was alarmed at the stories I was hearing about Ruth Coupe. I had little idea just how unsuited she was for her post at that time, but over the last few months I have become increasingly aware of the real truth behind her personality. I have never met her in person, and have no wish to do so, but I have absolutely no doubt at all that she is not a suitable person to be allowed the power that she has.
I have always tried to discipline my children with the importance of telling the truth, and when I questioned my son about the recent incident with the Supply Teacher in Year 5, I was delighted that he told me the truth as he knew it. Ironically, his statement vindicated Ruth Coupe from any blame at that time – but it was more important to me that I was being told the truth from someone I could trust. I would not trust Mrs Coupe to tell the truth under any circumstances!
Incidentally, the Chair of Governors was caught out recently telling an out and out lie – but one has to ask whether he was simply re-iterating a lie that he had been told by someone else? In which case, if he was lied to by a certain person, one has to speculate how he feels now about that person?
Time will tell. And the Truth WILL out!
Alan Veale
admin
Because of the nature of some of the posts in this topic, I am now locking it.
Please refrain from entering in to 'on-line' arguments. Everyone has a right to opinion and should be allowed to express it as long as it does not infringe the rules of this site.
Please do not try to continue this thread in another topic. Any attempt to do so will result in the topic being deleted and the person posting the topic being removed from the site.
We are entering a very critical time as all sorts of facts and revelations are emerging from the woodwork. We must remember that there is a disciplinery which is to be heard very soon. There is the complaint to the DFES and also there is now great council interest. It would be foolish to discredit this whole process in any way when we may be heading towards THE TRUTH finally coming out.
